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1/24/2013 1:01:00 PM
Letter: Do we allow ourselves to be ruled by fear?

Editor:

Let’s talk about guns in America. There are about 300 million privately owned guns in America, and maybe 40% are registered. Guns are a part of our heritage and have been from day one. That means that the government doesn’t know who owns 180 million guns.

Any plan to ban gun ownership in America and confiscate guns would require the owners of 180 million guns to turn them in, thats not likely. The NRA claims that the government wants to grab your guns. I believe that they are trying to scare the crap out of us for political gain.

Any practical plan to take peoples guns would require a national door-to-door search because many gun owners would not voluntarily turn in their guns. Can you imagine the chaos that would cause? If they were to try that where would they start looking for guns?

The registered guns of course would be first, but I also think that the membership of the NRA would also be a prime source. In a practical sense that cat is out of the bag. Guns are here to stay in America. But on the other hand are reasonable requirements for gun ownership wrong, I don’t think so ... so where do we go from here?

Do we allow our selves to be ruled by fear of something that is highly unlikely?

Richard Hileman

Clarkdale



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Posted: Saturday, February 16, 2013
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

That's all true, Mr. Wave. And I sit in awe of your amazing broad jump. Now let's work on the pole vault, shall we?

As designed, our government works best when citizens of each sovereign State set their own goals, support their own agendas, and decide how much of what kind of regulation they need to maintain order in each community, each city, each county, and their State. From the beginning, the Federal government's only authorized domestic role is to regulate interstate commerce, adjudicate disputes between States, and police violations of the Federal Constitution.

Policing, alone, is a full-time job. As our Founders knew, constitutions are only as good as the people administrating them. And people can be ill informed, petty, self-serving, prejudiced, duplicitous, vicious--not to mention the fact those who really love bossing other people around often go into public "service." They're also subject to the limitations of democratic selection. Even an educated voting public tends to favor politicos bearing goodies over statesmen offering good government. Both the Feds AND the governed have to keep these weasels-until-proven-otherwise under constant surveillance. Meanwhile, the weasels have to keep an eye on the wolverine.

When everyone concentrates on their appointed responsibilities in their authorized jurisdictions, a high level of liberty, justice, productivity, and prosperity prevails. When they sluff off, though, the States dissolve into a warren of petty fiefdoms. And encroachment on each other's prerogatives breeds idiocies like the current Medical Marijuana flap.

The Feds should be hauling the Governor of Arizona into federal court for allowing her minions to obstruct a voter-approved law, in direct opposition to Arizona's contract with its citizens, which violates Arizona's contract with the Federal government. They can't because, in an unconstitutional encroachment on personal prerogatives, Congress banned marijuana nationwide. So instead, the minions are claiming the people of Arizona can't force their own public servants to do anything against federal law.

The 1994 federal gun bans created just as much of a mess: blatantly selective enforcement, federal agents bumbling around concocting Keystone Cops sting operations, more otherwise law-abiding citizens filling jails, and more weapons gravitating into the hands of real criminals. The States should have hauled the Feds into court, but they were complicit in the encroachment on personal prerogatives. The people's only recourse was to hand Congress over to the opposition party and pray for rain.

Now. Given that weapons are dangerous and that most people want (and some actually need) regulations...after you've checked the veracity of the above statements...

A. If a rash of gun-related violence suddenly hit the Verde Valley, how would you go about addressing this threat to your community?
B. If the same level of mayhem were being perpetrated by tire irons and kitchen utensils, would you address it in the same way?
C. If not, why not?


Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Article comment by: I For

one will keep my High Cap Mags and my AK47s. What better to own should you run into any of the Gang members or Drug Cartel Members that the Marxist President and his AG have armed. That pretty well shows who he feels should be armed

Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Article comment by: Tom Babbitt

The number of drug arrests during traffic stops is a statistical impossibility. Law enforcement has to be involved in drug trafficking, math doesn't lie. They terrorized the people that druggies were so bad that nobody has even questioned drug arrests. They are going to keep terrorizing the people of Yavapai county and continue to trash talk my neighbors until we stop rewarding them for it.

Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Article comment by: Peter, Yavapai County

Richard,
Instead of giving into fear, we should review our country's violent history to see how the Second Amendment has "protected us".

Our nation’s early fighting forces consisted of soldiers armed with single shot muskets. In order to counter any potential threat to their liberty or property, landowners could form and arm militias (with muskets), to oppose any government aggression. (This effectively happened in the devastating U.S. Civil War. Single shot guns and sabers killed at least 700,000 Americans and maimed countless more.) Caution: This inalienable Right may be hazardous to our health.

Today the 222 year old “right to bear arms” is confusing to many contemporary Americans. In order to maintain the Amendment’s original intent (providing for the people’s right to physically oppose government aggression), we’ll need to make modern military weapons available to all Americans. But thanks to our taxpayer subsidized military/industrial complex, our military forces are now virtually invincible.

The idea that a bunch of us patriotic baby boomers might form and arm a militia worthy of challenging modern government aggression is a romantic, libertarian fantasy. This delusion diminishes (not enhances), our safety.

Perhaps the Second Amendment should be rewritten for clarity. Let’s direct our employees in Congress to update this right for modern times and modern weapons. Congress could rewrite the Second Amendment as:

The right of sane, registered voters to own guns* for personal protection shall not be infringed.

*Gun/magazine configurations permitted for exercising one’s Second Amendment right to personal protection following a background check, include: (TBD by special bipartisan Congressional committee)


Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Article comment by: itsy bitsy Spider

Where do we go from there, Mr. Hilliman?

That's fairly easy. First we look around the Verde Valley and check for any noticeable increase in our normal level of gun-related violence, psychotic behavior, or tragic accidents.

If we discover some, we then have a chat with our favorite local official or minister to determine who, if anyone, is on top of it and what, if anything, we can do to help. Or we discuss it with a local community service organization.

If no one seems to know what they're doing or more community input is needed, we could e-mail our local newspaper editor and present the information we've gathered to date. Or address our City Council. Or go to the County level.



Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Article comment by: Crime Wave

No one is trying to take away peoples right to own guns, but no one in the private sector needs automatic or semi-automatic assault style weapons that were developed for the military and law enforcement.
Guns don't kill people, but paranoid people, criminals, crazy people, and ex military suffering from post traumatic stress disorder that have access to assault rifles and handguns, have and do kill people everyday.
So whats the solution? Do we lock up everyone coming back from Iraq? Do we buy back assault weapons from private citizens?
Criminals will always be able to get their hands on guns and the easier we make it for them to do so the more often the killings will be. Organized crime will always have what they need to commit their crimes.
Stabbing, strangling, burning, hanging, electrocution, drowning, blunt force trauma. All of these methods require a bit more energy from the killer and a more "personal" touch. Unless it is self-defense,guns are a cowards way to kill someone. With a rifle you don't even need to be close to your victim. Clean easy and you walk away.
With the invention of tazers and bean bag loads for shotguns and other equally effective but non-lethal forms of self defense. People still feel the need to be able to blow holes into someone or anyone they feel threatened by.
Where does it end? Is the solution more and more guns? Cut down on violence by arming everyone? Personally I don't think that is the solution, I think that has become the problem. More guns less violence, c'mon be real people.


Posted: Thursday, February 7, 2013
Article comment by: It is paranoia not 'fear'

... that fuels the gun-happy cult and "Fear, Facts,Lies..." letter.

The fact that the US citizenry is the most heavily armed in the world with over 300,000,000 million weapons (88.8 per 100)distributed throughout the country exposes the lie of the government chopping away at anyone's right to bear arms.

The statement has no basis in reality, except the zig-zag dead end halls in the mind of a paranoid person.


Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013
Article comment by: Fear, Facts, Lies,..., And the list goes on.

"Do we allow ourselves to be ruled by fear?"

Interesting question brings up a second
question. "Are we ruled by 'rulers' who don't
fear the ruled."

Government since 911 has/have been bragging
that they are the 1st responders (this is a lie).

They are in fact the third/fourth or higher
responders (this is fact).

As the gov(fed, state, local) chop away our
right to own and bear arms...you are being wise
to feel fear (this is fact).




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